2014/08/12 21:57:05
Marty J
Whitchy sent me a pm as I was not aware of any issues until now.
 
It does look like WIDEMR does have the type B pinion. So that means someone else has his.
If you are going to buy another power steering rack then get a later model and you should be good to go.
 
The difference between type A and type B are widths where the bearings fit above the helical part.
 
dwyer125, as far as I am aware, rev 1 & 2 are type A and rev 3 onwards are type B.
 
I'm not trying to screw anybody here. I have made mistakes but don't for one minute think I am a conman. I have been out of work since 2006, my MR2 has been off the road for a long time and I was hoping a little extra would help get it back on the road. Well I f*cked up big time and now I am in debt for over £1500 because of this group buy that I started.  I had miscalculated and every single person that got one of these pinions less than cost price.
 
I am not looking for sympathy but that is how it turned out for me.
2014/08/13 09:03:13
WHITCHY
Hi Marty, 
 
Thanks for checking my PM and responding. Sorry if you read my post as you screwing us, I was referring to the manufacturer f**king them and still sending them out when they are clearly different to the first batch!
 
Looking at WIDEMR's pinion his is still different to mine, the diameter of the bit above the helical section where the bearing fits is larger on mine (type B) than his (type A).
 
I'm sorry to hear about your situation Marty. My MR2 has also been off the road since I received the pinion, I'd really like to get it installed and get my car back on the road. Please tell me there is a way we can get these pinions re-manufactured? I would rather throw another few bucks into getting a correct one posted here then throw away over $400 for a useless lump of metal, especially knowing those who received their pinions from the first batch can actually use theirs!
 
Do you have an equivalent of ACCC over there that you can lodge a complaint with and say you paid this company to make x amount of pinions, they made half correctly, the other half are not manufactured correctly and are not suitable?
 
Cheers.
2014/08/13 12:30:57
Dudeman
WHITCHY
. Sorry if you read my post as you screwing us, I was referring to the manufacturer f**king them and still sending them out when they are clearly different to the first batch!
 
Do you have an equivalent of ACCC over there that you can lodge a complaint with and say you paid this company to make x amount of pinions, they made half correctly, the other half are not manufactured correctly and are not suitable?




I just can't understand why 'marty' won't name the place where he had these lumps of metal made. If they have screwed him over he owes them no loyalty. That really makes this whole thing on the nose.
2014/08/13 22:29:38
Marty J
I have a customers pinion type B in a rack which he has yet to collect and a type A at my parents garage.
 
I have tested both for fitment and are good. Give me a few days and I will take photos to see exactly what has gone wrong here.
 
The thing that makes it incredibly frustrating for me is the fact that the manufacturer is far away in another country and so are you guys. I always like to be in person when I am getting something done or sorting something out.
 
Don't write that pinion off, I'm sure it can be sorted. Can you borrow a original pinion from a fellow MR2 owner to get you back on the road until I get this sorted ?
 
The manufacturer is Beard & Fitch based in the UK.
2014/08/21 05:55:52
Marty J
These two pinions have been tested and work correctly.
The type B steering rack rev3 works on my rev2 with no mods needed.
 
The first two photos are type A pinion.
 


 
The photos below are type B.
 


2014/08/21 06:18:17
Marty J
Both types of pinion have three steps just above the helical thread.
MC and WIDEMR pinions only have two of these steps.
 
I can either have them returned again (I know, it's a pain in the arse and a long wait) or return them to me and I will offer a refund as soon as funds permit. Either way this won't be resolved quickly I am afraid, sorry. I can imagine your patience has run out by now.
 
One other option would be to see if a local manufacturer could make the missing part, but at your own expense as I'm skint at the moment. I'm not sure if it can be done, but if you would rather not wait any longer it's up to you guys.
 
 
2014/08/21 10:54:52
dwyer125
I still have to check mine. 
 
Is it possible the ones with only 2 steps could have a sleeve machined and pressed on?
2014/08/21 19:57:30
Marty J
dwyer125
I still have to check mine. 
 
Is it possible the ones with only 2 steps could have a sleeve machined and pressed on?


Pm returned.
 
I'm not a engineer so I don't know if it is possible to press one on. If it is able to be pressed on, so long as the pressed on part rotates with the rest of the pinion body, then I cannot see there being a problem.
2014/08/21 20:10:59
Marty J
I just measured type A and B. The part missing is the main but not only difference between type A and B.
 
Theoretically if a collar was able to be pressed on depending on the size of the collar, you could make a type A or B pinion.
 
2014/08/21 21:48:56
WIDEMR
I ordered a Pinion A, but i have received a Pinion B that still has not been made right? After i already had to send it back to Ireland at my cost as soon as i got it?
 
I dont think im interested in send it back again and seeing if they will fix it.
 
If anyone has a Pinion A or B that has been made correctly, that is interested in selling, please let me know.
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