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2012/06/21 15:46:32
MR2QIK
So competitive Surok Just be happy for the man.....lol
 
Mobi, any idea of the effective RON octane rating with 30% toluene? Interesting to see the effects of higher octane fuels as no one around has really been game enough to try.
2012/06/21 16:21:48
MANDALAY
Its Toluene, keep doing that and there will be a lot of melted parts.
 
1986 fuel crisis( fuel shortage ) 10 company cars added Toluene to make up volume
 
= 10 very fast cars with lots of :)
then 3 days latter = 10 very sad reps with no cars all blown !
2012/06/21 20:06:41
mobi
The RON rating of 30% Toluene / 100octane pump fuel mix is around 106 RON.
I decided to use this fuel as E85 is not conveniently available to me and the whole fuel system needs to be changed to accommodate the required fuel volume.
Surok:  I dont think this setup is cheating by any means, just optimisation of the engines torque and power production via the available resources. Some would say using a turbo is cheating.
 
Mandalay, Toluene at 20-25% concentration gives a 0 knock count, I am using 30%.
I have nearly maxxed the available airflow from the present turbo at 26psi, 40psi and 500rwkw is achievable on this fuel mix with an appropriately sized turbo.
BTW I love your supercharger project, such superb workmanship and design, cant wait for the results.
Thanks for the warning though and the car story was really interesting...
 
2012/06/21 20:18:09
robk
mobi
I have nearly maxxed the available airflow from the present turbo at 26psi

It's good to know what you found to be the limit of the GT3076R.
2012/06/21 20:41:00
jdmr288
Needs hi-res pics esp with new wheels!
2012/06/21 20:46:43
robk
jdmr288
Needs hi-res pics esp with new wheels!

True that!
2012/06/21 21:45:09
mobi
Will do, as soon the flares are fitted to tuck them in.
2012/06/22 04:43:01
MANDALAY
Thank you.
 
Yeh Toluene has a high Boiling Point of 110oC.  Its an aromatic and very corrosive .Great paint stripper so dont spill it.
 
And if you have fuel return from the rail to the fuel tank CHANGE THE hose. Its only rubber and will swell very fast. 2 of those cars went up in flames.
 
If your in the industry its cheap actually as cheap as std petrol, Also it wont go off just evaporates so you can keep a 200 liter drum.
 
BTW there is some Toluene in our 98 pump fuel.
 
Oxygenated product is better to raise the Octane rating
 
2012/06/22 07:59:54
surok
im just mucking around :p 
thats an awesome result without having to have a GT35R
 
im just jelly.
2012/06/22 11:44:53
MR2QIK
What was Adam/JEM's opinion/recommendation on running the 30% Toluene mix? I'm sure if he had concerns, he'd have voiced them. I assume he's played with it before.
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