• Queensland
  • SLIDEWIZE SUNDAY 3 NOVEMBER - URGENT ROLL CALL FOR PROSPECTIVE SLIDERS (p.2)
2013/10/17 23:32:37
Knightrous
1. Tralfaz - AW11 S/C
2. Run Manager - SW20 N/A
3. fredhoon - AW11 n/a
4. Danny - red SW20 N/A
5. Nate_p - SW20 turbo.
6. Ddubtoille - sw20 turbo
7. Knightrous - AW11
2013/10/17 23:53:37
tralfaz
With Knightrous nominating the activity is unfortunately now CLOSED to further entries unless someone else drops out. If other spots become available I will notify everyone both via this Forum posting and PM. As I indicated previously the spots on Sunday were limited, but if you know someone going who has a spare seat the co-pilot is covered in the $130 fee, so something could be worked out to share the cost.
Walter
NB: The organisers do have some spots still opn for Saturday the 2nd of November. If you are interested in these instead of Sunday please let me know ASAP via PM.
 
 
 
 
2013/10/18 11:22:02
nate_p
Hi all I am very sad to say that after going to mark the day for slidewize on my calendar I saw that one of my good mates weddings is on the Saturday in rockhampton so I won't be able to make it
2013/10/21 14:01:41
Knightrous
My place is also available.
 
1. Tralfaz - AW11 S/C
2. Run Manager - SW20 N/A
3. fredhoon - AW11 n/a
4. Danny - red SW20 N/A
5. Ddubtoille - sw20 turbo


2013/11/01 00:57:00
fredhoon
For those that are going on Sunday, the Slidewize powersport facebook page has a copy of the indemnity form and other info under notes.  There is a hand "ticks and tips" spiel that I will copy below, I pretty sure I did the exact opposite of this when I went earlier this year.
 
 https://www.facebook.com/slidewizemotorsport/notes
 
Slidewize Driving Tech
15 June 2011 at 11:02
Are you putting on the Agony..
but Missing all the Style??
This is how we do it at SlideWize..
 
 1: Correct seating: You don't go moto-X riding sitting on the back of the seat! You'll have no control of the bike.
Cars are the same. So, get up close and personal with the steering wheel.
Pull the seat forward, wind the back of the seat up and get your left foot planted on the foot rest.
Ask me for a demo, I will happily walk you through it.
 
 2: Driving: Your not driving a train, get BOTH hands on the steering wheel and keep them there.
Get your left foot away from the clutch and brake pedals and put it back on the floor!
This will make a good start to the day..
 
 3: Fork lifts: Your not skidding fork lift around either, so don't palm the steering wheel.
Use both hands to 'walk' the steering wheel around in a pull-push fashion.
Also refrain from 'chucking' the steering wheel.
A chucking action will make the car wobble and a lot harder to control..
 
 4: Speed: Most cars will slide easier when you get the vehicle speed up a little bit. Drive the track without skidding as fast as you can, feel where the 'slippery' spots are and gauge how your car is reacting to the skid pan. Then, LIGHTLY apply more power where the track is slippery and hold the power at that level to make a nice consistent little slide. If you do nothing else, the car will most likely pull out of the slide. This is a great start, from there we can add a little more power after the slide has started and create a longer slide! Don't get greedy with the power, or the car will spin out. 
 
 5: Stab: Don't stab the throttle. Stabbing really unbalances the car. Drivers who stab the throttle usually find that they are doing lots of steering work to constantly 'catch' the car. This makes the car rather hard to hold in nice long smooth slide.
 
Gently squeeze the throttle on, and leave it there. This makes steering SO much easier!
Then lightly apply more throttle to gain more car angle in the slide, or less throttle to subtract the angle and straighten the car up.
 
 6: Plan where you are driving. Draw a line of the track with your eyes about 1/3~1/2 of a track ahead of where your car is right now. This technique feels very odd at first, however this will allow your brain to work more efficiently and your driving will greatly improve once you get this sorted. This technique will also allow you to create a 'driving line' and allows you to plan where you want to put the car on the track at any given point. This single technique will enable you to not need the chicken stick (hand brake) anymore.. and you will also carry more speed while sliding!
 
 7: Clutch kicking.. refer to all the above hints! clutch kicking seriously unbalances the car and greatly increases your chances of spinning the car out. This is VERY harsh on the drive-train and is not needed. I strongly recommend that you don't do it.
 
 8: Scandinavian flicks: This is the art of rapidly shifting the vehicles weight from one side of the vehicle to another in a controlled manor by using the energy stored in the springs along with kinetic energy in the vehicle. When used correctly, this technique will enable the driver to use this energy to create a weight shift in the vehicle and force the tyres to slip. This can be very useful at keeping the back of the car in a controlled slide which can aid the driver in linking the next sequence of corners together!
 
 9: Brakes: the use of brakes can be useful at stopping the vehicle in a slide. Brakes stop the rotation of all four corners of the vehicle at once, which will stall or cancel a slide and usually hold the vehicle in that rotation of the slide.
 
If the vehicle is in a rotating slide around a hair pin, and the driver has applied to much energy into the slide (either speed, angle or steering) then a light application of the brakes will stall the slide. The vehicle will usually stop its rotation before it stops sliding(sometimes happens at the same time though). Therefore, it may be possible to get off the brakes in time and lightly apply the throttle to continue the slide. If the vehicle continues in a slide, the vehicle speed will be down and more power will be needed to keep the slide going. This situation will be a little harder to hold in a controlled slide until the vehicle regains its speed again. Its usually only needed if you didn't plan the entry correctly..
2013/11/01 14:18:09
tralfaz
Thanks for the heads-up for all us newbies on the circuit up there.
 
I have done skid pan training before but it was on smooth asphalt, not concrete, there was a water and oil mixture sprayed on from sprinklers imbedded in the circuit, the cars were supplied with completely bald tyres, they were all the same model of vehicle, and part of the testing was a reverse parking scenario where they balanced glass bottles on sticks at the back of the "garage". It was so much fun to go sliding backwards with the brakes on through the back of the "garage" when you were actually trying to either stop or drive forwards.
 
It will be interesting to see how the auto S/C ADub with no power-assisted steering goes against the new 86's with ABS, etc. ADub - auto O/D off, power shift settings on, manual selected to hold the gears. I just feel sorry for all the people who didn't nominate to come because it is going to be FUN.
 
Walter
2013/11/01 15:49:43
fredhoon
tralfazI just feel sorry for all the people who didn't nominate to come because it is going to be FUN.

 
Fun is an understatement.  Even though I was struggling to get my car to slide much and it came home on the back of a tilt tray, I had an absolute ball!  So much better than traditional "driver training" style skidpan events I've participated in at Mt Cotton & Lakeside (even though they were enjoyable in themselves).
 
It's just a shame this style of even at $130 is so far away in Gympie, I would otherwise be there every couple of months.  By comparison Mt Cotton is twice the price for half the track time and a much more sedate atmosphere.
 
2013/11/02 00:08:19
tralfaz
Back of a tilt tray? Never!  
 
The way I look at this is the distance to just before Gympie is a relative thing. On our normal Runs we regularly do over 300kms, and to get there and back on Sunday its really freeway driving for most of the way. I can't remember if you were on the Run a few years back which I think Knightrous organised, that had us doing a tour up around the hinterland plus then driving to Gympie for a short time on the dyno. Slidewize as an activity provides much better value as you have said, and the cost for what you get is very cheap.
 
Although there are relatively speaking not a lot going it gives us the chance to check it out to make sure the standard has been maintained, and we can hopefully program it again next year but a bit earlier. The Nationals did take a lot of focus out of the middle of this year, and while I hoped that a few more members would see the benefit of Slidewize, you and the rest of us going will certainly have some stories to tell afterwards. I am very interested to see how our cars go against the 86's, and the one thing that is for certain is we are going to give them a fright over how well these "old" machines handle.
 
The Run Manager and I are really looking forward to the event and your company for the day.
 
 
2013/11/02 08:35:34
dennis the menace
Once again my apologies for not being able to take this opportunity, I would have enjoyed it.  Combination of circumstances (my car undergoing much needed re-build plus another customer car to finish off) sadly says no.  
2013/11/03 23:08:11
tralfaz
Dennis, 
no problems at all. We originally planned this for a Saturday earlier in the year but you might recall we had some problems when Kathy was hospitalised with her knee injury and had to post pone it. The Sunday opportunity that presented itself today was too good to pass up because we felt it gave more opportunity for members to participate, but despite a PM mail out and other publicity the expected numbers didnt eventuate.
However, those who went had a fantastic time, it was great value for money, we had a female instructor who helped Kathy get her first ever sliding going in the SW20, there were shoot outs for prizes against Toyota 86's and a new V8 Lexus developing 348kw (we slayed the Lexus dead), Danny took third overall, Elliot and his brother just wanted to stay there permanently they had so much fun, Tim was recognised with a prize for his efforts against cars three times the power of his ADub, and I experienced the limit point on a 360 snap oversteer for the first time under controlled conditions.
It was very well organised and very safely run. All in all a top day out, which I am sure the others concur on, and we hope to do it again next year.
Walter
 
 
 
 
 
12.. >> - Powered by APG vNext Trial
© 2025 APG vNext Trial Version 5.5

Use My Existing Forum Account

Use My Social Media Account