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2015/04/28 10:54:34
rikkir
You'll crack 1:30 easily next time... The stickers are worth half a second alone...
2015/09/02 18:49:40
xtimmyx
It's about time now to really start thinking about doing something about the engine in the car now and the way I see it I've got 3 options each with their own pros/cons.
 
1. Keep the big port, add cams, MegaSquirt PNP and possibly ITBs:
Pros:
Relatively "cheap" and the engine I've got works well (so far)
No fabrication
"Legal"
Cons:
Leaves me without a spare engine
It's an old engine with lots of km
 
2. Buy and fix up a small port, add cams and possibly ITBs:
Pros:
Slightly newer engine with more power stock
Good opportunity to learn some engine work which I'm yet to tackle on my own
I can take my time to fix up the engine and put it in when I'm happy with it
Cons:
Possibly a bit costly
After market engine management seems a little bit trickier, or expensive
 
3. 20v Silvertop
Pros:
Newer engine
Sufficient power in stock form
Relatively cheap
Cons:
Could cause trouble if defected
Rather disappointing performance according to several people
 
Basically what I'm after is a noticeable power gain without spending a fortune. Not after making crazy power.
 
Any opinions?
2015/09/02 19:41:57
rikkir
Beams!
2015/09/02 20:36:35
Paw11
I am in a similar position but I think I am going to go with your first option. That way I can do it in stages as the budget allows. Maybe megasquirt 1st (so I can ditch the afm) then the cams. It is probably more expensive than going a standard silvertop or blacktop but I like that you don't have to chop up the harness (a bit if you go ITBs) and a spare head or engine is quite cheap. I picked up a decent second hand engine for $500 a few weeks back after exploding the original at the track day in January so it is not a major issue if an old big port lets go. Although it would be nice to put together a properly built one,
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2015/09/03 08:22:16
Carmikey
Options 1 or 2.
Don't waste your time on option 3... I've been down that path, very expensive to source, parts are not cheap and performance is nothing like i had expected. In fact my tired smallport goes harder.
 
BTW: All 3 options are 'Legal' here is Adelaide, as you would still be running a 4age 1600cc engine.  Just fill in right paperwork for engine change / no.

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2015/09/03 12:45:19
MCT_MR2
Im with carmikey, option 1 or 2. I would personally lean towards option 1. But 20valves are really not that amazing, unless you have the money to modify them further and tune them.
2015/09/03 15:32:30
EssDub
The only good 20V engine is a Barry Manon special from NZ :D
2015/09/03 17:09:30
xtimmyx
Thanks guys, pretty settled on option 1 now. Advantage being the availability of MS PNP (even though it'll cost me more than an entire small port engine). But it should pay off once I start doing further mods versus running the factory ecu on a small port.
 
So loosely my plan looks like this, please let me know if you've got any opinions as I'm rather new to this:
 
Stage 1:
Proper oil/water temp gauge + oil cooler
 
Stage 2:
Mega Squirt
 
Stage 3:
Cams (272/272?) + TRD 0.8mm head gasket
Adjustable cam gears
 
Stage 4:
ITBs
 
And somewhere I'll try to fit clutch/flywheel and possibly a c56 tranny.
 
So much for budget build... 
2015/09/03 19:13:29
rikkir
xtimmyx
Thanks guys, pretty settled on option 1 now. Advantage being the availability of MS PNP (even though it'll cost me more than an entire small port engine). But it should pay off once I start doing further mods versus running the factory ecu on a small port.
 
So loosely my plan looks like this, please let me know if you've got any opinions as I'm rather new to this:
 
Stage 1:
Proper oil/water temp gauge + oil cooler
 
Stage 2:
Mega Squirt
 
Stage 3:
Cams (272/272?) + TRD 0.8mm head gasket
Adjustable cam gears
 
Stage 4:
ITBs
 
And somewhere I'll try to fit clutch/flywheel and possibly a c56 tranny.
 
So much for budget build... 

But it will be so much fun!
2015/09/03 19:38:52
Paw11
I am thinking I will go for a high lift cam with a little less duration. Normally you would need to go with a shim under conversion but the cam buckets in the link below seem to be a neater, simpler and cheaper solution.

http://club4ag.com/faq_an...s/Lifter%20Tuning.html

Also a good review of various cam options if you haven't seen it already.

http://club4ag.com/faq_an...E%20camshaft_story.htm

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