2009/12/27 15:13:53
Domma_aw11
Aaron

This is awsome thread.. will will be looking into this for next year as a deffiniant!!! the more info the better... thanks mate.. this is a good idea..

DOM
2009/12/27 19:37:19
Knightrous
Will hopefully be able to get my guide finished when I get home. It's a bit of a pain in the ass writing the guide after I finished it because I've forgotten the odd thing I've done...
Dom, let me know when you get one, I'll drop down for a weekend to help install and get your a basic tune going so we can really hear those big cams sing!
2009/12/28 19:54:38
angus82
The MegaSquirt can do Alpha N (running on TPS alone), how ever with a small vacuum tank in line with the MAP sensor, I think you will be able to run it as normal Speed Density without any problems. However, I could be wrong.

At least I know that I can have something to fall back on if I can't get it to run on the map sensor.

Yes, full standard loom and sensors. I ended up running 1 new wire seperate to the standard loom to drive the coil. The reason I did this is because I wanted to use spark cut for rev limiter, using the standard ignition system, the igniter is a smart unit, if it detects loss of signal from the ecu, it will continue to do the spark itself, but at 10' of timing. This basically overrides the spark cut, I planned to just by pass the igniter right up close to the unit but due to wiring diagrams of the igniter not making sense, I just ran a new wire.


So if I understand this correctly you did not use the standard toyota ignitor to run the coil. Does this mean that you can run the coil directly from the Megasquirt? Does it have an inbuilt ignition module?


Now, one thing to remember is that the MegaSquirt isn't a plug n play unit. There is a steep learning curve to them and there is a lot of documentation that can really overwhelm you when your new to it all. The MegaSquirt is cheap because it requires the user to do a lot more work, and sometimes you have to try things out for yourself as there isn't an ABC guide to doing it. I'd advise you buy a pre-assembled[url='http://www.diyautotune.com/catalog/megasquirtii-engine-management-system-wpcb3-assembled-unit-p-65.html?osCsid=e8da6b263be77a5437a8b9a1cbb4037f']MegaSquirt2 on v3.0 PCB[/url] and a [url='http://www.diyautotune.com/catalog/megasquirt-pigtail-harness-p-114.html?osCsid=e8da6b263be77a5437a8b9a1cbb4037f']18" pigtail loom[/url] from DIYAutoTune. If you ask nicely, they will probably even install the MSExtra firmware for you .

I don't think i'll have a problem getting my head around it. I have wired up quite a few Haltech's before. The hardest part might be entering the settings into the ecu to get the correct trigger angles to fire the injectors and ignition

There is also a new option from DIYAutoTune, it's there own rolled version of the MicroSquirt but in a form factor for PlugNPlay (PNP) applications. They have one for the Toyota based on the 52-pin ecu's located [url='http://www.diyautotune.com/catalog/diypnp-nippon-denso-52pin-unassembled-kit-p-390.html?osCsid=e8da6b263be77a5437a8b9a1cbb4037f']here[/url]. I've no experience with these unfortunately, so you'll be pioneering it yourself

This sounds pretty good too, I would presume that all the ECU's with this plug run all the same wiring pins or either you have to wire them up to suit your wiring loom. Now that you have thrown this into the mix I am liking the idea of a plug in ecu, so that if ever the cops defected me I could just swap the factory one in and away you go!

If you still have your stock motor in the car, buy the megasquirt and get it running on the stock motor first, this gives you a chance to work on an easy, already running motor that is problem free. Once you've had a few weeks of tuning and setup up the stock motor, you should be clued up enough to tackle an exotic balls out 4AGE

Yes this is exactly what I intend to do!
2009/12/28 20:15:07
angus82
I have just looked at the DIY PNP kit and have worked it out. There is a jumper board inside the ecu box, so you effectively wire the pins up to suit your car, similar to what you have done with your megasquirt 2 but instead you have the factory ECU plug. This is looking like an attractive option.
2009/12/29 01:40:52
Knightrous
I did use the standard ignitor for like a month, but the spark cut limiter didn't work. So I drive the coil directly without the ignitor. The megasquirt has an IGBT ignition driver onboard.
2009/12/29 11:11:36
Domma_aw11
quote:
Originally posted by Knightrous

Will hopefully be able to get my guide finished when I get home. It's a bit of a pain in the ass writing the guide after I finished it because I've forgotten the odd thing I've done...
Dom, let me know when you get one, I'll drop down for a weekend to help install and get your a basic tune going so we can really hear those big cams sing!



So ur offer is still open.. i will have to take u up on that.. thank you so much man!!!! i cnt wait.. one question.. how much more power could be gained from the ms?? also were to get a wideban o2?? thanks again, i will be getting one shortly cuz i got some good bankange coming my way lol thanks again man

DOM
2009/12/29 14:33:55
Knightrous
quote:
Originally posted by Domma_aw11
So ur offer is still open.. i will have to take u up on that.. thank you so much man!!!! i cnt wait.. one question.. how much more power could be gained from the ms?? also were to get a wideban o2?? thanks again, i will be getting one shortly cuz i got some good bankange coming my way lol thanks again man

DOM



I honestly can't give you an inclination on how much more power you will get, but you should be able to get a reasonable increase. With the MegaSquirt you will be able to tune the fuel correctly so it's not learning out up high or running rich down low. Basically fix the problems the standard ECU is struggling with and make it run better!

Wideband I bought from aussie company KSM (Via Ebay). They have them for $250 shipped. There is one here: http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Air-Fuel-Meter-Innovate-Motorsports-LC1-02-Sensor_W0QQitemZ150394004904QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Car_Parts_Accessories?hash=item23042e65a8

The wideband is essential if you want to tune the megasquirt (or any ecu) properly.
2009/12/29 17:56:30
Domma_aw11
ok thank alot man.. thats alot of help... i catch u soon man

DOM
2009/12/29 18:32:50
angus82
Knightrous, in one of your earlier post you said that you were running the Air Flow Meter in order to use the Air Temp Sensor. I thought only the US AW11's ran AFM. Mine is a Jap import and runs a MAP sensor.

Do you know where you can get the appropriate ECU pin outs or wiring diagram for a MAP sensored AW11 4age? I could always go through the loom with a multimeter but it would help to know these things.
2009/12/29 23:22:30
Knightrous
Aussie (ADM) AW11's are all second gen 4age bigports with AFM's.
If your chasing wiring diagrams, get your hands on a copy of the BGB from opc.mr2oc.com
I have some pin diagrams I drafted up, but you would have to cross check them with yours.
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