2014/02/13 00:52:11
robk
*EDIT* This result was from an old tune! It has been improved more recently, as you will see if you continue reading this thread. 
 

 
MRC ended up being heaps busy with other stuff on the day, so we only had time to do the tune fairly quickly at the end of the day. I was in the passenger seat with the laptop because I know the Adaptronic software inside out. In hindsight I've realised that I should have added more timing at lower RPM (I only added timing from 3500rpm and above, but really I should have done it from about 2000 or 2500rpm and above). I might be returning to MRC soon to get an A/C leak fixed anyway, so I might get one last touch-up tune while I'm there, just to try to get a bit more low-end torque and maybe bring the turbo on slightly earlier. TBH it's already amazing, but I may as well add more timing down there and see how it goes.
2014/02/13 01:31:17
Dudeman

 
328.5KW - is that the maxxiest power of an Australian road going 2?
 
Watch out Rob, you may do your face a permanent injury with that massive grin i'm sure you are wearing. Bet you are grinning in your sleep!
2014/02/13 07:59:43
Nightingale
Really nice Rob. Car is evolving nicely. :)
2014/02/13 08:10:17
robk
Dudeman
328.5KW - is that the maxxiest power of an Australian road going 2?

I'm aware of only a few other SW20s with similar power levels on E85 in Australia. 
 
Dudeman
Watch out Rob, you may do your face a permanent injury with that massive grin i'm sure you are wearing. Bet you are grinning in your sleep!


2014/02/13 09:59:07
MR2QIK
Nice result mate. About 10% increase although I expected the boost increase to gain a bit more.
 
How were the intake temps?
 
Either way, it makes what it makes & I'd simply be happy with that. Would probably go back & fine tune the bottom end as E85 is known as potentially improving response, so you'd want to get the full experience.
2014/02/13 16:45:02
robk
*EDIT* If you continue reading through this thread, you will see the results of a more recent and improved dyno tune!
 
MR2QIK
How were the intake temps?

I think this played a big part in the results. I was reminded once again how much worse the dyno is for intake temps, compared to on the street. The temps at the end of each run were about 10-15 degrees worse than on the street, even with lots of fans everywhere. The ambient temp was over 30 degrees in the dyno room too. 
2014/02/13 16:53:03
MIDN1T3
So much win Rob!  This car has kept getting better and better - very nice!
 
Just with the E85 making more power when running leaner, I'm curious as to what your AFR ratios/lambda when you were making peak power?  I've heard that with E85 the maximum power rich is .7 lambda and maximum power lean is around .86 lambda so curious to know whether this is true for your set up too.
 
Finally, for us on stock turbo set ups with some bolt-ons, could you do us a massive favour and explain the experience of driving the deuce with THAT much power? For example, from a standstill and rolling acceleration?
 
Currently I've got visions of the car shredding tyres, chewing through bitumen whilst the driver is almost passed out from the Gs being pulled lol.
2014/02/13 22:18:26
5SGTE
MIDN1T3
 
Currently I've got visions of the car shredding tyres, chewing through bitumen whilst the driver is almost passed out from the Gs being pulled lol.




LOL funny stuff!
2014/02/13 23:57:58
robk
MIDN1T3
So much win Rob!  This car has kept getting better and better - very nice!
 
Just with the E85 making more power when running leaner, I'm curious as to what your AFR ratios/lambda when you were making peak power?  I've heard that with E85 the maximum power rich is .7 lambda and maximum power lean is around .86 lambda so curious to know whether this is true for your set up too.

I think we were closer to 0.86 lambda. In the end I'm not sure how much it really influenced the power, because we were simultaneously focusing on the boost and ignition timing, and occasionally making some fuel adjustments. We didn't try richening it back up again at the end to see if it made a difference.
 
MIDN1T3
Finally, for us on stock turbo set ups with some bolt-ons, could you do us a massive favour and explain the experience of driving the deuce with THAT much power? For example, from a standstill and rolling acceleration?
 
Currently I've got visions of the car shredding tyres, chewing through bitumen whilst the driver is almost passed out from the Gs being pulled lol.

Consider 4 typical scenarios (well, typical in this car hahaha):
1) Cruising in 3rd gear at 3000-4000rpm, anticipating that some quick acceleration is about to be required, then downshift to 2nd and floor it.
2) Cruising in 4th or 5th gear on the motorway at 3000-4000rpm, then downshift to 3rd and floor it.
3) Cruising at less than 3000rpm, then suddenly deciding to floor it and being too lazy to downshift at least one gear.
4) Proper launching, drag style.
 
...
 
1) That downshift puts it in the powerband on full boost very quickly, and you basically have yourself a time warp / wheelspin switch.
 
2) Same as above but with the slightly reduced acceleration of 3rd gear instead of 2nd.
 
3) This is the situation where a big turbo will always let you down. It can take many seconds for the boost to come on. However, if you're on a long straight road and the lag doesn't matter, then the anticipation during those few seconds, and the rush of feeling the boost increasing from nothing all the way up to the maximum, is awesome in its own way.
 
4) I'll have to report back on that after I return to the drags some time, and hopefully manage a decent launch. I think even with a good launch there would still be a slight delay waiting for the boost (edit: without antilag of course). But, once you're on boost and shifting near the redline, you stay on boost for the remaining gear changes.
 
The first 2 scenarios are the most useful and most common...think overtaking.
2014/02/14 00:16:55
Dudeman
robk
 
1) That downshift puts it in the powerband on full boost very quickly, and you basically have yourself a time warp / wheelspin switch.
 
 



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