2012/06/21 16:42:35
MANDALAY
Driving the Euro with paddles its boring. Stick to D and thats it. Only use the paddles to down shift.
Manual will always feel nice.
Even tho dearer the autos will definitely depreciate more than the manual
2012/06/22 08:33:49
surok
driving any FWD econobox like an automatic accord euro will always be boring.
driving an auto aurion is rubbish and you dont use the paddles either. but in a sports car. with a good transmission that does what you ask of it.
it will be good.
 
lots of sports cars are auto these days.
2012/06/22 08:56:32
nissky
Just saw one in city traffic, looks great and perfect size.
2012/06/25 19:37:26
mr_mi6
Took at look at the 86 today. Not sure if I like or hate it yet still undecided. However disappointed with many dealers actions. Called a dealer to find out if they had a GTS manual and they say the only way I can see one is I put a deposit down and wait 6 months. What a joke!! Wanted me to sign the dotted line before I even seen the car in person or gotten to the joint yet. Another dealer I called, told me they had a manual GTS demo available and I can come in anytime in the day to take a look. I rock up, no GTS manual and its at least a 2 hour wait on just the GT, so I just left. Totally disappointed by the dealers actions today. Don't trust them, don't believe a word they say.
 
On another note, I saw the delivery of a GTS 86 auto to a customer as I left annoyed and angry. And decided to take a look at it. Took a few pics. Had a family of 4 (parents and 2 kids) walk into the dealer and my MR2 was parked next to it. Their little girl around 8 said she liked my car. Gave me a big smile.


2012/06/26 00:18:31
Tree
Due to owning a SW20, the 86's small size doesn't really shock me too much.
From the pics the height seems similar to the SW20. How about length-wise, mr_mi6?
2012/06/26 00:58:01
mr_mi6
Length wise it is shorter than the SW20, I'm surprised there is literally no length after the rear wheels. The boot is ridiculously small and I mean small. The SW20 can easily fit a 3 large briefcases in the boot. I know I've tried. the 86 due to the lack of height in the boot I say one and a half. Yes it does have fold down seats, but for me the security of not folding down the seat matters in terms of storage.
Height wise, the SW20 is still lower. Probably by about 50mm or more. You can certainly see it. There is more headroom in the 86 hence the height difference.
2012/06/26 05:17:59
nissky
Space wise still looks perfect, I wouldn't want it any bigger.


2012/06/26 09:41:44
MRTurbo
I'd probably have the rear seat folded down 'permanently' if I had one. Still MUCH more space than an MR2 behind the front seats. If you can fit 4 17" rims in the back then its WIN because you can't in a 2.
2012/06/26 09:59:31
purple5ive
had a sit in one of them at the Toyota Winterfest here in melbourne
interior is quite nice but a bit bland for me, the seats are very comfy.
was suprised to see most parts are made by subaru, including the panels (which were also stamped subaru) oil filter etc lol. the starter motor i think was made by mitsubishi etc.
i was having a chat to the guy from toyota who brought it down and he said the car was a techical service training vehicle, and most things are subaru apart from the fuel injection system.
 
im quite interested to know if the ECU is from subaru, cause then it could possibly be flashed quite easily, unlike toyotas locked ecu system.
 
cheers
2012/06/26 15:10:34
Tree
Yeh I remember doing a bit of reading up and apparently most of it is Subaru. The difference between the boot from the pictures as far is I can tell is that the SW20's boot is deep but the 86 is swallow, however it can fold down so maybe both have decent volume, just different dimension ratios which can be good or bad depending on the luggage...
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