Yeah the NVH of the 2 is terrible compared to new cars. Having Kirk inserts and a 3.35" exaust doesnt help tho :p

best thing about the 2 its paid off and I still like the turbo shove in the back :)

yeah i love when it comes on boost, i guess a turboed 86 will be a different ball game again.
im waiting for it to come to my local toyota showroom to go have a look. no intention of getting it however, maybe in another 5-6 years when the used car prices drop.
cheers

According to the sales guy at Toyota, depreciation on the 86 will be very minimal due to the low volume. He reckons that a manual GTS will still be almost 30k second hand in 2-3 years and I agree.

muahahah winning.. 
im really glad you liked the auto GTS.
 
i knew the auto would be fantastic.. do you really think they would spend 4 years on a car and release it with a substandard transmission ?
 
 
 
 

wonder if the auto box will suffer the same fate as the alfa selespeed gearbox.. i must say i do love the selespeed (when it works properly) but im guessing the 86 will respond faster to gear changes going by your quick report.

It apparently changes gears in 0.2 sec. I've driven plenty of autos in the past and none of them compare to this one. It really took me by surprise. really like that shifter is 'gated' too, very refined in its action. Leave it in 'D' for cruising/traffic or use the manual paddles in the hills - can't go wrong.
 
Auto GTS at back, manual GT front

 
LEDs :)

MRTurbo

According to the sales guy at Toyota, depreciation on the 86 will be very minimal due to the low volume. He reckons that a manual GTS will still be almost 30k second hand in 2-3 years and I agree.

 
A car salesman wouldn't ever understate the potential depreciation of their brand new model would they?

No of course not ! 

it is the same box used in the ISF minus 2 ratios.
and it has been programmed to be as fast as a DSG.. as you know. toyota does not offfer a DSG solution nor does subaru yet.
 
so developing on what they have.. they chose the best auto tranny they make.
 
the subaru autos are horrid. even the 5 speed paddleshifter in the forester S
 
they did the best they could possibly do.

Well I can see where the extra cost comes in then. It IS good because the torque converter locks up via a clutch in 2nd to 6th gear in manual mode. Unlike most Toyotas which usually lock only in O/D (4th or 5th) >70 km/h to save fuel etc.