MR2Pod - thanks for understanding. I really didn't want to get into specifics because like I said some off-car topics can get very involved very quickly. I certainly take your point about the opportunity to discuss what we like because I am a huge supporter of people expressing their views openly. It's just the context of the topics sometimes and you could imagine the comments and depth of feeling if we started exploring Whore of Babylon's issue here. Not saying that it shouldn't be opened up because that situation is disgraceful, its just the context again and what we want to use this Forum for. Personally, it's to relax and chew the fat over the enjoyment these great cars provide as a means of escaping the world's problems.
What Bustin said (and where were you Sunday Bustin? :-):-) is very true about who knows what - we can never hope to know everything even if we'd like to. All we can do is go on what we understand to be the facts - the problem sometimes is that people don't like the facts getting in the way of a good story. Otherwise Murdoch couldn't sell his newspapers.:-):-)